Friday 6 January 2012

Why I'm wrong and so are zealots like Santorum

If there is one thing I am sure about, it's that there are a lot of things I don't know.  Coming from a Science background, that's just sensible - if there is uncertainty around a topic, well, we just have to live with that.  When we get better information, then, we can be more certain - until then, I can have opinions, but I know that my opinions are simply educated guesses on the world.

Why I am sure that religious zealots like Rick Santorum are wrong

So, while I can live with uncertainty, there are a lot of religious zealots in the world who cannot.  Instead, they claim that their faith is right.  Their claims just lack logic.

In our world of 7 billion there are around 2 billion Christians, 1.6 billion Muslims, 1 billion Hindus and 500 million Buddhists.  Each of these believe different truths about the world.  Each is absolutely confident in their faith about those truths. So, they can't all be right.  In fact, because they are absolutists, they must all be wrong.

(As an aside, the Christians might like to claim that majority rules, and because there are more of them, they must be right.  I'd be reluctant to use that line of thinking dear Christians, as the growth rate of Islam is faster than Christianity, so at some stage in the future, this would mean the Christians would have to concede that the Muslims are right!)



Rick Santorum: a religious zealot
Which brings us to Rick Santorum, campaigning on "faith, family and freedom".  His view is that his biblical faith is a truth.  It's a view that was held by George W Bush and by millions of Americans (and other Christians around the world).  But he also claims that he is right and Muslims are wrong with claims such as “We need to define it and say what it is. And it is evil. Sharia law is incompatible with American jurisprudence and our Constitution.”

So, we have different groups passionately claiming they are right, just because ... well, because they say so.  That's why it is so clear that they all must be wrong.

Why it's important that I am not right

Being absolute about the state of the world prevents people from investigating how things can be done differently or better.  If one believes that a deity has cast the world in stone, there is no motivation to improve.  And whether there is, or isn't a God doesn't affect this either.  At its worst, holding such absolute views leads to violence, discrimination and terrorism - and this has been going on for thousands of years.

As productive members of society, we must remain questioning, thoughtful beings, not blind followers of others, or of a text written hundred or thousands of years ago.  By being respectful to alternative opinions, the likelihood of sectarian violence decreases close to zero, for their is no faith to have to protect.

The more I have learnt over the years, the more confident I am that I don't know a lot of important things.  I'm also confident that I should keep searching for a little better understanding, and not rely on blind faith.

The world needs leaders who encourage us all to question and grow, and not to be religious fundamentalists.  Rick Santorum (like Osama bin Laden) is wrong.

Let me know what you think.

4 comments:

  1. Part A - We all have a faith, view, belief of what is the truth in this world. If we didn't believe our view was the truth then we would hold a different view/faith.
    - "Instead, they claim that their faith is right." All of us have a view on spiritual faith, some believe in a God, others believe there is no God. We believe that our truth is correct.
    - "Their claims just lack logic." Mark please articulates why their claims lack logic. Your statement is an absolute one, however you have not explained why? Please do so?
    - "Each is absolutely confident in their faith about those truths. So, they can't all be right. In fact, because they are absolutists, they must all be wrong." This statement doesn't make sense to me; surely it is possible that one of these religions is correct?
    - "As an aside, the Christians might like to claim that majority rules, and because there are more of them, they must be right." I'm not aware of any Christians that hold this view, and if they base their entire faith on this reason alone, they are very silly! Mark we both know that Collingwood aren't the best team, yet they have the most followers.
    - "So, we have different groups passionately claiming they are right, just because ... well, because they say so. That's why it is so clear that they all must be wrong." I'm surprised you have used this statement and logic, considering how articulate and intelligent you are. I know you can do better!
    - "But he also claims that he is right and Muslims are wrong ", Mark you are doing the same thing, you have your view and version of the truth and if others are different to you then they are wrong.
    - "said that the “vast majority” of Muslims don’t want to it either.
    - Let's quote accurately using the source you provided. “They left because of Sharia law,” Santorum said, referring to why he believes Muslim immigrants left their home countries to come to the United States.
    Santorum added, “Sharia law is not just a religious code. It is also a governmental code. It happens to be both religious in nature an origin, but it is a civil code. And it is incompatible with the civil code of the United States.”
    I think he is correct, not sure you can argue with what he has said there?

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  2. Part B


    - "So, we have different groups passionately claiming they are right, just because ... well, because they say so. That's why it is so clear that they all must be wrong" - I'm surprised Mark you have used this statement, after reading your previous blogs. You are obviously an intelligent and articulate man, so I'm disappointed that you can't do this better than this statement.
    - " If one believes that a deity has cast the world in stone, there is no motivation to improve." Again another statement that is just not correct and has no logic!
    - "views leads to violence, discrimination and terrorism " there are many reasons why these problems occur. You are correct that faith does play a part, however there are many other factors as well.
    - "As productive members of society, we must remain questioning, thoughtful beings, not blind followers of others, or of a text written hundred or thousands of years ago." Mark you are being really disrespectful here with the last part of that statement. I agree we should be always searching for the truth and always evaluate what we believe and why! You are preaching one thing and then doing the opposite.
    - "The world needs leaders who encourage us all to question and grow, and not to be religious fundamentalists. Rick Santorum (like Osama bin Laden) is wrong" Again why are they wrong, because you say so?

    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt when you wrote this blog, as having a bad day. Your blog argues against people having an absolute view, yet you have made statements that are just as absolute.


    At the end of the day it all comes down to this:
    When you and I die, what imprint have we made on this world during our life? Has it been mostly positive? How was it positive, To Whom, Why, How Often, When?
    We all have an opportunity to impact this world in a positive way, do we take it?

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  3. Anonymous,

    It's difficult to have a conversation on topics of faith for, as Richard Dawkins puts it "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence. (Untitled Lecture, Edinburgh Science Festival (1992) http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/dawkins.htm)

    So, on most of your comments we will have to agree to disagree.

    But, I will concede on at least one thing...yes, it is quite possible that one of the faiths are indeed correct.

    The big problem is that as none of them have evidence (they are all based on faith), we can't know which one might be correct.

    Oh, and a final word. I do have a personal view on matters of faith and religion, but because they are just my own pro-theistic feelings, it's not my place to impose them on anyone.

    Thanks for reading. I'll try to do better next time ;) !!

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  4. That's the point Mark, religion is a belief as it can't be proven or dis-proven just yet.
    I think the common error people make re faith, is trying to impose a scientific methodology on something that is not in the physical realm. Religious faith is obviously based upon the spiritual realm, which we can't prove or dis-prove.
    Just because we can't currently prove something, doesn't mean it's not true!

    Isn't it funny how we have put our faith in science, where many of the science beliefs have not been proven (i.e. the big bang THEORY).

    I think as a human race we are scared to accept that there is something that is smarter then us! We like to feel in control, therefore coming up with as many alternative options excluding God.

    Ha, when you so strongly (and consistently) have issues with Christians (I've read all your other posts and it's funny how many of these paint a negative picture of Christians), you probably need to state your stance on your faith. I would like a blog from your expanding further on your pro-theistic feelings. I imagine it would be an interesting read!

    Good work Mark, please keep up the blogs.

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